The implicit anti-vaxxer argument
Friday, April 23rd, 2010 at
8:39 am
A video in which I highlight the flaws in the anti-vaccine argument. Namely that populations that receive vaccines devoid of thimerasol do not develop autism, yet they also claim that thimerasol is not the sole cause of autism. If this were the case, then surely you would expect such populations to express lower levels of autism, not have it entirely absent? Amish article: www.generationrescue.org NEJM article: content.nejm.org Home schooled kids article: www.generationrescue.org
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Wart again refuses to address the fact that SCIENTISTS (like he claims to be) working for a pharmaceutical company (like the ones he shills for) claim pharmaceuticals are contaminated by endotoxins (& much more) that need to be removed. They emphasize vaccines, in particular, need cleaning up…
But wart ignores that info and posts some ridiculous patent irrelevant to the facts in my argument
More deflection from someone hurting children with every breath the sociopathic shill takes.
“But now wart is saying we shouldn’t trust what a pharmaceutical company is saying about drugs and vaccine”
No, I’m saying you cannot use patents as scientific evidence, as they are not vetted for accurasy. As I pointed out above, there is a patent on FTL; a phsyical impossibility.
If you have *scientific* evidence you are correct, let us know. But accusations, patents, opinion pieces, etc, DO NOT QUALIFY AS SCIENCE.
Wart again deflects. the patent is from a pharmaceutical company, put together by scientists from that company, & in the patent they go on to describe the host of contaminants that are in pharmaceuticals, including vaccines.
But now wart is saying we shouldn’t trust what a pharmaceutical company is saying about drugs and vaccines… lol
The contradictory information coming from the pharmaceutical industry makes it plain someone is lying & they regulate themselves. this has to stop
“US Patent 7226775-Jun2007 “there remains a pressing need for removing endotoxin from pharmaceuticals. In particular, vaccines”
My god, you are stupid. Patents are not scientific documents. Citing a patent is about as non-scientific as you can get – there’s a patent for faster-than-light travel; enough said.
Wart again displays his sociopathic behavior by lying about what research has & has not been done. The lies and manipulations that occur in the studies he references are clear, yet he continues to post and support them
His video on vaccines and autism is riddled with lies. I exposed him 4 in the first 3 minutes of his video & he simply lied and deflected instead of admitting and correcting
He will continue to harm children and burden families with his lies, that is why I call him sociopathic
continuation… recognizes this – US Patent 7226775-Jun2007 “there remains a pressing need for removing endotoxin from pharmaceuticals. In particular, vaccines”
Wart knows this but continues to avoid addressing the facts of toxic vaccine or saying they are not toxic at the doses given. but he has no evidence to support that position
Until vaccine toxins are removed we should try to identify the kids that will be severely adversely affected and find alternative protections
continuation… by prolonging and intesifying the infant’s immune reaction to the reduced amount of vaccine. Adjuvants also prolong/intensify reaction to toher immune reactive contaminants in vaccine. These contaminants come from theprocess of making antigen with gene altered bacteria or fungus or other organic substances. Crushing bacteria to get the antigen out the toxic soup is then “purified” but the antigen solution is never pure and heavily contaminated. A 2007 patent … continued
And again Wart lies about me being an anti-vaxer. Wart never stops lying
Far from being an anti-vaxer i do insist that vaccines have many toxins in them that need to be cleaned up. Most of the toxins are present to increase profit for pharmaceutical companies. preservative allows shipment of large batches of accine with increased shelf life increasing per dose profit for Big pharma and vaccine distributors. Adjuvants allow Big Pharma to reduce the amount of expensive antigen… contnued
Wart says “Asperger’s is part of the ASD, your wishes don’t change that”
Of course Wart is deflecting again. I already stated that Asperger’s is part of the ASG, but it is NOT autism. that is by definition in the DSM-IV and TR
Autism with regression is a widely recognized diagnosis though not included in the DSM. It is however openly discussed at the DSM conferences and is being considered as part of the diagnostic criteria
Autistics with regression have profound neurological impairment
“Wart knowingly refers to another manipulated study”
Translation: once again science shows another of mikies beliefs to be false, and his only possible refutation is to claim conspiracy.
Typical anti-vaxer; reality doesn’t align with their expectations, so they deny reality.
“The people he claims are autistic yet intellectually accomplished are not autistic”
As if we needed any more evidence mikie is full of shit. But he seems to like to provide us with more & more of that evidence.
Aspergers is part of the ASD; your wishes don’t change that mikie.
And, for that matter, most autistics have a normal IQ – autistics are not mentally retarded; their syndrome is predominantly in social skills.
Wart knowingly refers to another manipulated study that estimated (guessed) the number of autistic adults because their surveys could not find enough adults with autism to coincide with the percentages that should be found if the origin of autism was genetic.
Additionally a genetic cause can NEVER explain the dramatic rise in autism percentages. Only environmental triggers can explain it, and vaccines are the only environmental trigger that fits the bill
Wart knows but lies anyway
Wart is a sociopath who lies & denies what autism is & means to those afflicted
The people he claims are autistic yet intellectually accomplished are not autistic. They have Asperger’s syndrome which is not autism. It is a seperate diagnosis which has similarities to autism but is lumped with autism under the heading “Autistic Spectrum Disorders”, just as Rett’s & PDD are because they are related to autism through some common symptoms
Wart continues to ignore truth while supporting Big Pharma
Yeah, there were a lot of false claims and shaky argumentsI didn’t address here, but I didn’t want to stray too far from the point.
I sort of regret not pointing out the “30 year old autistics” fallacy, I’ve met a great many of them
Shouldn’t have posted my first comment until I finished the vid. Where are all the over-30 autistics:
1) I know one who writes for a computer magazine
2) I employ one as a lab tech
3) Autism Spectrum Disorders in adults living in households throughout England – report from the Adult Psychiatric Morbidity Survey 2007 – in this study ~1:100 UK adults had autism, exactly the same rate as UK kids…
“Morally abhorrent”
Pretty much sums up the entire anti-vax industry.
But hey, why do controlled studies when you can just ask a couple of docs what they think and report that as being a “study”? Opinions are free, studies; not so much…